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10/1/2019 - Episode 17 - Embracing the Unexpected


Part of what separates a good writer from a great writer is their ability to not only draw inspiration from a wide variety of sources - some truly unexpected places - but also their ability to pivot creatively when life decides to throw some serious curveballs. Guest Angela Santillo personifies the phrase “embracing the unexpected,” and joins me today on the podcast.


GUEST BIO: Angela Santillo is a writer based in New York City. Often using science and history as her inspiration, her work has a poetic lean and is heavy in spectacle.  Her plays have been produced and developed in New York, San Francisco, and Chicago. Notable credits include the world premiere of Faulted with foolsFURY, finalist in the Samuel French’s OOB Short Play Festival, and finalist for the Jerome Fellowship.  Her first nonfiction stories have been published by Exposition Review and Burningwood Literary Journal. Her first published piece, "Everything I Could Dump Into a Prologue," has been nominated for a 2020 Pushcart Prize. 

A storyteller beyond the written word, she is producer/host of the podcast And Then Suddenly and recently launched a Corporate Storytelling consultancy.  She has a BA in English and Theater from Saint Mary's College of California and an MFA in Theater from Sarah Lawrence College. You can find Angela online at: www.angelasantillo.com 


Resources mentioned in this episode:


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Writing Prompt:

Watch “Haboob dust storm attacks Arizona wedding.”

Pick one of the three people in the video and watch it till the end.

Write the inner monologue of the person you tracked, starting at their last moment on screen.

Submit your finished piece to & then write on Medium.com.



9/1/2019 - Episode 16 - Starve Your Distractions


All of us encounter distractions on a daily basis. It can be difficult to achieve, let alone sustain, any kind of creative focus. So how do we minimize distractions and overwhelm? How do we create an environment where focus can be achieved in a minimal amount of time? Today I share some strategies that have helped me stay on track.




8/1/2019 - Episode 15 - The Shapeshifting Writer


As writers, we work to establish habits, routines that serve us well. But just when you think you have this writing thing down… you discover that what served you well for one project is an absolute disaster for the next. No two writing projects are the same. How do we as writers adapt? How do we shapeshift to be the exact writer we need to be in that moment? And what do we do when we have creative loves outside of writing? How do we find balance? I welcome long-time friend, mentor, and fellow creative Denise Stephenson to the podcast today to discuss these topics.



GUEST BIO: Denise Stephenson is the Faculty Director of the Writing Center at MiraCosta College in Oceanside, CA. She is a book artist, a scholar, and a committed collaborator. Over her career she’s had dozens of academic articles published and several plays staged. Isolation is her first novel. Her current creative writing involves postmodern, overlapping extensions to Isolation.

Contact info: denise.stephenson@gmail.com




7/1/2019 - Episode 14 - Finding Your Why


How do we as writers find our WHY? And is this even a necessary practice when it comes to our writing?

Resources mentioned in this episode:


How Great Leaders Inspire Action - Tedx: Simon Sinek  


Start With Why, by Simon Sinek




6/1/2019 - Episode 13 - Whose Voice Is It Anyway?


How do we as writers develop a voice that is uniquely our own? What are some of the stumbling blocks we encounter in this process? Today I welcome fellow writer and friend, Nick Beardslee, and we tackle questions about voice, screenwriting, and collaboration.


GUEST BIO: Nick Beardslee is a video producer at the Stamps School of Art & Design at the University of Michigan, as well as a freelance filmmaker. He creates corporate content, music videos, and short films. In his short time since graduating from Grand Valley State University, Nick has been un-learning or re-learning everything he's been taught.

By opening himself up to the things that captured his imagination as a child, as well as his own life experiences, Nick has restructured his creative practice, while finding ways to integrate more personal truth into his work.

Nick's work can be found at nickbeardslee.com, and he continues to express himself through photography on Instagram at @nicholasbeardslee.



5/1/2019 - Episode 12 - Shadow Artists


Do you turn away from your true calling? Are you an artist at heart, but find yourself throwing your energy behind other artists, relegating yourself to the background, i.e. support staff? Today we’ll talk about how you can take charge of your true self, and begin to dismantle the limiting beliefs holding you back.

This episode is absolutely inspired by The Artist's Way, by Julia Cameron, a book I am currently working through. If you've ever stuffed down that quiet voice that's trying to tell you what you should be doing with your life... then this one's for you.

Resources mentioned in this episode:


The Artist's Way, by Julia Cameron




4/1/2019 - Episode 011 - Writer's on Process: Emotional Loading



This is the first in what will be a series of episodes about writers and the processes they utilize in their craft. I’m pretty much endlessly fascinated when it comes to how other’s approach their work… and have always loved getting that behind-the-scenes peek.

Today’s guest, Kyle Williams, will shed some light on one way we can bring adequate emotional energy to our writing, and also how we can funnel our creativity and inspiration into a sprawling work.

Resources mentioned in this episode:


City of Bones (The Mortal Instruments Book 1), by Cassandra Clare

A Song of Ice and Fire (Seven Volumes), by George R.R. Martin

Harry Potter Complete Series, by J.K. Rowling

Kyle Williams

GUEST BIO: Kyle Williams was born and raised in California. He recently published his first book “The Steel Sentinel,” part of his nine book flagship series “Spiritborn.” Kyle currently works at a healthcare center in Redlands. Although he began his career in nanotechnology, he has since transitioned to nursing. He was craving more connection with others, and feels his efforts to help are more tangible in this field.

Much of Kyle’s writing inspiration comes from nature. He grew up in the city, and it wasn’t until he lived in rural Maryland for a stretch that he began to realize how beautiful the natural world is. Long walks observing nature and wildlife led to an outpouring of ideas, which ultimately resulted in his book series. Listeners can find Kyle on Twitter and Instagram, and on deviantart, where he occasionally posts short stories that take place in the universe of his books, and other short pieces - or on his website.




3/1/2019 - Episode 010 - This Was Not Part of the Plan



What happens when we stop clinging so hard to our ideas of how things should be, and loosen the grip of control? What happens when we can open to the magic of disruption? In short: It can transform us.




2/1/2019 - Episode 009 - Writing to Heal


Writing isn’t a one-size-fits all endeavor. It can be a creative outlet, a form of employment, a professional pursuit – or a mix of these. However, for many, writing itself can be a healing balm, a place for self-reflection and emotional digestion. Rachel Redmond joins today’s episode to discuss the healing properties of writing.

Resources mentioned in this episode:


The Artist's Way, by Julia Cameron

GUEST BIO: For the past 15 years, Rachel has been studying and living an Ayurveda-inspired lifestyle. After healing herself from chronic digestive issues and anxiety with the wisdom of Ayurveda, Rachel has been passionate about sharing this knowledge with others. In 2010, she became a Certified Ayurveda Practitioner and has been practicing and teaching Ayurveda ever since. In 2015, she earned her degree as a Doctor of Oriental Medicine, licensed acupuncturist and herbalist. Rachel currently works in East Lansing at the Center for Optimal Health where she practices Ayurveda, acupuncture and herbal medicine. You can find her online at racheleredmond.com.




1/1/2019 - Episode 008 - Not the "R" Word 


It’s that time of year… the time of year when we’re encouraged to “make resolutions,” “set intentions,” “pick a word for the year.” These rituals can be helpful, but for many of us it feels like we’re setting ourselves up for failure. What’s a writer to do? 

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Podcast Equipment 

Audio Recording Software - Adobe Audition

Microphone – Audio-Technica ATR2100-USB Cardioid Dynamic USB/XLR Microphone

Pop Filter - Dragonpad USA 6" Microphone Studio Pop Filter

Headphones – Sony MDR7506 Professional Large Diaphragm Headphones

Podcast Host – Libsyn


Personal Development

Money Mind Academy - FREE Masterclass with Sean Croxton on January 8th, 2019 8pm EST / 5pm PST

Podcast Movement 28-Day Challenge

Marie Forleo’s B-School




12/1/2018 - Episode 007 - Moving Away from the Side Hustle 


For many, writing is a side hustle. But maybe you’re feeling the pull to make writing your full-time gig. When do you know it’s the right time to make the leap? What are some of the considerations you need to think through?

Resources mentioned in this episode:


Leaving the Corporate 9 to 5: Stories From People Who've Done It (And How You Can, Too!), by Anna S.E. Lundberg

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, by Stephen Covey

Man's Search for Meaning, by Viktor E. Frankl 

More info about Anna's services at One Step Outside.

GUEST BIO: Anna Lundberg is a success coach and business strategist who helps people create businesses and build a lifestyle that allows them an unimagined sense of freedom, flexibility and fulfillment across different areas of their lives. Anna built her professional career in marketing, working on well-known global brands and gradually specializing in digital. She continues to advise businesses, and train teams on how to create powerful brands, develop effective marketing strategies, and build digital capabilities in their organization.

Anna is also a confident speaker and workshop facilitator, as well as a published writer, with articles appearing in Business Insider, Inc. Magazine, and Thrive Global. She also co-authored the book How to Succeed in Your First Job. As a coach, she works individually with clients to help them reimagine “success” in their personal and professional lives. She also runs a group program where she supports professionals who want to take their One Step Outside the 9 to 5. Find out more about how Anna can support you on her website: onestepoutside.com




11/1/2018 - Episode 006 - Manifest That Shit


What is manifesting, and how can it help your writing life – and life in general? This is a simple tool that can make a huge impact in all areas of your life. Join me with an open mind, and you’ll see.

Resources mentioned in this episode:


7 Steps to Manifest Anything You Want - Including Money, by Nathalie Guerin


Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear, by Elizabeth Gilbert

Personal Development / Finances

Sean Croxton - Make Money, Make a Difference




10/1/2018 - Episode 005 - A Writing State of Mind 


How do we cultivate a “writing state of mind?”  As life becomes increasingly full, it becomes exponentially more difficult to simply sit down and write.  What’s a writer to do?  Today I welcome Jeremy Hammond to the podcast, and together we shed some light on this topic.

Resources mentioned in this episode:


Getting Things Done, by David Allen.


OneNote  /  EveryTask  /   Nirvana   /   Easy Tempus   /   OmniFocus

More info about Jeremy's Coaching Program

Jeremy Hammond author photo

GUEST BIO: Jeremy R. Hammond is an independent journalist and political analyst, the publisher and editor of Foreign Policy Journal (www.foreignpolicyjournal.com), an author described by Barron’s as “a writer of rare skill”, and a writing coach. His books include Obstacle to Peace: The US Role in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, which famed public intellectual Noam Chomsky has described as “a very impressive piece of work” that is “carefully documented and highly informative”. His writing coaching program is designed to help independent journalists and bloggers communicate their ideas more effectively and make their voices heard. Find him on the web at JeremyRHammond.com.




9/1/2018 - Episode 004 - Origin Stories


When it comes to super heroes, we eat up their origin stories. But I want to know, where do writers come from?  I realized I didn’t really know the origin stories of most writers I know—where did we begin, when did we know we were writers, who inspired us—and set out to learn more. I wondered if I would find any parallels between their journeys, and my own. 




8/1/2018 - Episode 003 - Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda


Let's discuss the ways in which we talk around our writing practice, and the language we use in communication with ourselves.

What kind of language have you internalized?




7/1/2018 - Episode 002 - The Tangled Web of Writing Truth


How much distance is needed between you and your topic & character when either / both are based on real-life events?  When it is healing & when is it too painful to write about personal events?

Guest Irene Yadao and I discuss the challenges of writing about difficult events and people in our lives.  As writers, we often mine our own life for material.  This tends to be true regardless of what form you prefer to write in.  How do you navigate this?  Do you include the good, the bad, and the ugly?  Do you revise history to avoid ruffling feathers?  What are you willing to sacrifice, in terms of relationships, when it comes to sharing your history in such a public way? 

GUEST BIO: Irene Yadao hails from California but has lived on the coast of Maine for the past ten years. She started her writing career as a journalist, serving as an editor, fact-checker and freelance writer for publications like The San Diego Union-Tribune, The Village Voice, Maine magazine and Down East Magazine. Her journalistic writing is mostly about music and food, but when it comes to her personal writing, the topic turns to family dynamics. She’s written short stories, experimental prose and, most recently, episodic screenplays.




6/1/2018 - Episode 001 - The Fear of Being Seen


Welcome to the 1st Episode of the & then write podcast. The intention behind & then write is to engage with writers and creatives - to create a space where you feel supported, motivated, and inspired.

Today's episode deals with the Fear of Being Seen, and how we procrastinate and self-sabotage when it comes to this fear.

What happens when we push past that fear? What would you create if you could set aside your Fear of Being Seen? 

I can't wait to hear all about it...